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Just had the following conversation with my childhood friend who lives with "Al Bundy":

Hey...
Hi, how are you!
I'm sitting here waiting for Tim to arrive with his friends.
What, now? It's almost 1 AM!
Yeah... training took so long and then they went out for a drink.
But... didn't you say you'd spend the evening together?
Yes, I bought all the food and all.
Man, that sucks! And he makes you wait so long!
Actually, I wanted to come along so I could at least join them for dinner, but he cut me off. "Battery's low"...
Asshole.
Now I'm sitting here all evening, getting pissed.
I'd go to bed and leave those suckers alone!!!
[...]
Wait, here he comes. Oh no, he brought his friends! I told him not to!
Tell them to beat it!!! Go to bed, lock the door, put tooth paste in their dessert, just don't sit there!
I could stay and chat with you and let them be...
Yes! Good idea. Do that!
[pause]
No chance...
what?
Gotta go, gonna tell you tomorrow. Shit, they're so drunk...


ARGH!!!! Assholes! All of them!!! >_

Not exactly...

Date: 2001-04-07 04:24 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
See, I'm married at 22 and it's the best choice I ever did in my whole life. My husband is the cutest, kindest and most lovable guy on this Earth, and I am everything to him.

Krss

Re: Not exactly...

Date: 2001-04-07 04:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] silversolitaire.livejournal.com
Well, I hope your husband isn't anything like that, because if he was then I couldn't understand you at all. I'm sure there are a few select straight males who aren't idiots, but I still strive to find them. Well, not exactly.

But I was really talking about Al Bundy here. No offence meant to you or your hubby.

Date: 2001-04-07 05:34 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Sorry, I'm not sure I get your meaning here... Anything like what? Understand me why? Really hope you don't mean things that should have been kept untold by someone else.

Oh, and forgot to say this in my first post.

I am SO VERY PROUD of being heterosexual.

I believe all this intolerance against hets is really bad for the karma.

Krss

*sighs*

Date: 2001-04-08 03:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] silversolitaire.livejournal.com
What I was saying is that I don't think your husband is anything like that idiot I described above. I'm sure you picked a great one. Any woman who has a bit of self-esteem shouldn't be with someone like Tim. Simple as that. This has nothing to do with you and your husband.

And I can also tell that you, being so perfectly straight, never encountered the hatred and intolerance we gays are exposed to every day. So please bear with me and let me express myself in a way that suits me.

Date: 2001-04-08 04:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nico-sels.livejournal.com
Hi my sweet,

Don't bother defending yourself!
Besides, what the fuck? You don't have to explain yourself?! This in YOUR diary, YOUR world with YOUR rules. end of discussion!

Date: 2001-04-08 01:51 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Sorry, but just had to say this.

If you (both) treat me that way just because of the unforgivable sin of saying my opinion into a *public* journal (even if I am gay-friendly) I have to wonder what you'd say to one of those that hate you.

If you want your little world with your rules left alone, then I guess an online public journal that says "comment on this" after each entry just won't do. Try a down-to-earth paper diary.

*sighs*

Date: 2001-04-08 02:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] silversolitaire.livejournal.com
No, Krss, you get me all wrong, really. *sighs* I wasn't trying to be mean to you! But you can't expect me to take it well when you tell me I was mean to straights and you love being straight, are proud even, when I've been bustled around by straights all my life!

Are you one of those who think gay rights abuse the sanctity of marriage? That makes me wonder, really.

I love people to comment on my LJ. No problem with that. But they comment on MY journal. Those are my views, you know? I won't change them. I'm glad your husband is nice and wonderful, but that doesn't change the fact that I dislike most straight men. That's not offensive to you or your husband, that's my personal view. Accept that, please.

Krss, I don't want you to think I was being mean to you and don't appreciate your comments. Just accept my personal opinion.

Date: 2001-04-08 02:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nico-sels.livejournal.com
Sorry, but I have to say THIS:
This may be a 'public' journal yes, but that does not mean one will just swallow the comments posted.
You're free to comment, we're free to NOT comment or comment on your comment.
So, if I see Silver explaining (in the most kind way) that her paragraph in her journal was not at all referring to your straight marriage,
one would think you'd lay off. But no, you keep on going...and that's when I jump in for my friend and tell you that she is not required to defend her own statements in her very own journal.
If you call that 'treating you badly' then something else is obviously on your mind than just this discussion.

Re: *sighs*

Date: 2001-04-08 02:52 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I think I overreacted to your title, that's all.. "Best argument against heterosexuality". That's why I threw in the silly "pride" bit. God, I'm the first to agree that most *men* are jerks, no matter what their orientation. I just felt personally attacked by the het thing.

I *love* gays, I only wish I could meet more, and real-life ones. :) And, Silver, I like *you* a lot, your thoughts and views of the world are fascinating, and I wouldn't want you to think low of me just because I'm het. :)

And no, I don't think gay rights abuse anything. The "sanctity of marriage" bit is just a fancy cliche for me, *and* a boring one at that. I was just lucky with a marriage, but guess there are thousands of poor women out there with abusing or piggish husbands.

I can accept your views gladly. I think more or less on the same track.

Date: 2001-04-08 03:02 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
You are right, Nico. Nice of you to jump in for your friend. But really, we could have settled this between ourselves. :)

I "kept on going" just because of a small sentence that I obviously misunderstood. You know what it is. Please tell me if was too farfetched of me to interpret it in the way I did.

What I called 'treating me badly' was the 'she ain't worth it' glamorous touch. :)

Hope all three of us can get over this friendlier or at least stronger than before.

This thing...

Date: 2001-04-09 02:07 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Oh, dear. I'm not anonymous, BTW. I'm Scribe, but I just don't need another account right now. Still, it looks interesting. Maybe later.

Misunderstood intentions, hasty words, and lots of hurt feelings. Sad. Three obviously very nice people with more stress in their lives than they need. I'm not a counselor, I don't offer advice or judge. Just seems that no one here meant to hurt anyone's feelings. I hope this water will pass under the bridge for you all. I've just joined Silver's list, know krss from email, and have heard many good things about Nico from her. I like you all by proxy, and hope this gets straightened out and doesn't mushroom into something insurmountable. Though it SOUNDS like ya'll all want to get along. Maybe if it isn't picked at? *ducks* I'll butt out now.

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