Date: 2003-08-05 04:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] silversolitaire.livejournal.com
Yes, that is true. As a God you have great responsibility. But isn't the subject rather ungrateful to try and barter with you when you're asking for something, whereas the subject might have to qualms with turning to you in prayer everytime THEY need something? Are you a God or a servant?!? :-P

(I'm just trying to encourage discussion here! I'm not making fun of you, of course!)

Date: 2003-08-05 04:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] krss.livejournal.com
(I know =))

You have a point, and the truth is that if I were a God I would be a servant. =) I would be very occupied to use my power to aid the people in everything they ask. As a God I would have infinite wisdom so I would understand that people are petty and they barter and I wouldn't mind that. =)

Date: 2003-08-05 04:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] silversolitaire.livejournal.com
Oooh I see. So you'd be the merciful God who loves and understand all his/her creatures.

Ah, mythology, gotta love it. So many different types of Gods. The greedy God, the selfish God, the cruel, unforgiving God, the loving and just God, the merciful and understanding God... It's interesting to see which approach people would take!

Date: 2003-08-05 04:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] krss.livejournal.com
Yes, it IS interesting, and you had a very interesting idea with this poll. For instance, I simply reject the option about taking the object forcefully and ruining the guy's house in the proces too. =)

But after all, who knows? I have never been God, maybe I would do that. I don't know myself THAT well. =)

I just said that I would be a merciful God because I paralelled the situation with my adminship at a forum. I tried to serve the people all the time and respond to their complaints.

Date: 2003-08-05 05:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] silversolitaire.livejournal.com
Ah yes, but you see being a human in a powerful position is different to being a God. As a human you can always lose your power if you don't treat your "subjects" with dignity, because the power you have is only given to you through the people who accept your higher position. If they cease to accept it you lose your power. However, if you're a God you have complete power. Everything exists because you allow it to exist or you made it. You do not depend on someone's benevolence. They could all fear you and you'd still be far more powerful than them. But of course, then you wouldn't be a merciful God anymore ^_^;.

Date: 2003-08-05 07:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] krss.livejournal.com
It's true that. You would have absolute power over them. But I think even God has to answer to a greater God, somehow. =) I just fancy the image of the merciful God. Maybe because this is how I want my God to be. Maybe when you are God you think differently. I think a God who used to be human could be more merciful than a God who never was anything less. Or could be more cruel, depending on the human.

This all makes me think of "Bruce Almighty", the movie I haven't seen yet. "God for a day." The first thing Jim Carrey does when he is granted godly powers is enlarge the boobs on his wife. lol =)

Date: 2003-08-05 07:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] no-ron.livejournal.com
>>>If you were a God
well, first of all we'd have to define the term as to what my (God's) position in the universe is, what my powers and my perception of the world (and its inhabitants) are. (that's only a few to name.) for no doubt, all that answered this poll have a different idea of the meaning behind the word.

>>>However, if you're a God you have complete power.
>>>Everything exists because you allow it to exist or you made it.
so this gives us an idea then.
but in this case the situation "If you were a God and needed an object which is in the possession of a human" would never occur. ;p

Date: 2003-08-05 07:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] silversolitaire.livejournal.com
>> but in this case the situation "If you were a God and needed an
>> object which is in the possession of a human" would never occur. ;p

XD! Well yes, but I subscribe to the believe that a supreme being has created everything and still partakes sometimes, but certainly doesn't bother with every single thing happening "down there". So it might happen that this artefact was created by God, but then somehow was lost and moved here and there (pretty much like The One Ring) and now has fallen into the hands of this human. That's possible!

Date: 2003-08-05 08:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] no-ron.livejournal.com
and i subscribe to the idea that a supreme being IS creatING everything.
thus, if I'm God (and now seizing on your One Ring reference) both Sauron and Frodo (and all the other critters in the story for that matter too) are but particular expressions of different combinations of My inherent qualities in a play I play for My amusemet.
and if I intend to bring forth a particular futuredesign concerning the fate of the One Ring, I can arrange for it through altering the state of affairs (lets say by introducing a new element/character with his own unique incentives, or just changing a few variables like the direction of the wind or you name it) thusly, that it then subsequently results in the desired outcome.
(you know, like.. if a hedgehog runs across the street in front of you while you walk home in the night, how does it change the now-moment - thus the future too - and what cascade of events it triggers?)

Date: 2003-08-05 11:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] silversolitaire.livejournal.com
-_-*frizzle*

Okay, I think I've gotten the gist of it. Which is that our basic assumptions of a Supreme Power differ. I believe that the act of creation ends with the creation whereas you believe it's a continuing process.

I just we should leave it at that...

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