Date: 2003-08-05 07:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] silversolitaire.livejournal.com
>> but in this case the situation "If you were a God and needed an
>> object which is in the possession of a human" would never occur. ;p

XD! Well yes, but I subscribe to the believe that a supreme being has created everything and still partakes sometimes, but certainly doesn't bother with every single thing happening "down there". So it might happen that this artefact was created by God, but then somehow was lost and moved here and there (pretty much like The One Ring) and now has fallen into the hands of this human. That's possible!

Date: 2003-08-05 08:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] no-ron.livejournal.com
and i subscribe to the idea that a supreme being IS creatING everything.
thus, if I'm God (and now seizing on your One Ring reference) both Sauron and Frodo (and all the other critters in the story for that matter too) are but particular expressions of different combinations of My inherent qualities in a play I play for My amusemet.
and if I intend to bring forth a particular futuredesign concerning the fate of the One Ring, I can arrange for it through altering the state of affairs (lets say by introducing a new element/character with his own unique incentives, or just changing a few variables like the direction of the wind or you name it) thusly, that it then subsequently results in the desired outcome.
(you know, like.. if a hedgehog runs across the street in front of you while you walk home in the night, how does it change the now-moment - thus the future too - and what cascade of events it triggers?)

Date: 2003-08-05 11:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] silversolitaire.livejournal.com
-_-*frizzle*

Okay, I think I've gotten the gist of it. Which is that our basic assumptions of a Supreme Power differ. I believe that the act of creation ends with the creation whereas you believe it's a continuing process.

I just we should leave it at that...

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