More fuming!
Jun. 11th, 2001 03:18 pm![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
silversolitaireOkay, the "plagiaree" got back to me. This is ridiculous. If you're interested, read the whole correspondence! *growls*
----- Original Message -----
From: Sailor Gorgeous
To: Silver_Solitaire@bigfoot.com
Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2001 2:44 PM
Subject: 10 Steps to Sucessful Flaming
> Dear "Silver,"
>
> Oh, how greatful I was for those tips you so kindly
> posted on fanfiction.net. No, it is not that I find
> any worth in them -- I know they are a joke and I knew
> that, oh, six or seven months ago. It is because it
> made me see the human stupidity that resounds in the
> world.
>
> I am sorry, and pardon any coming cruelty, but the
> idea that you would plagerize, word for word in many
> cases, another author's work just astonishes me to no
> end. If you would like me to find you the original
> copy of those tips, which were written by a dear
> friend and reside on my computer, I will be happy to
> do so.
>
> I suppose that imitation is the sincerest form of
> flattery, but I believe that taking another person's
> work and claiming it as your own is actually the most
> unkind thing to do. It deminishes your own sense of
> self-worth -- after all, it is obvious that you were,
> at least to yourself, not creative enough to come up
> with such a scathing commentary on flames on your own
> and had to steal another's writings -- and it takes
> away your chance, at least in some other people's
> eyes, to make yourself a well-known, respected author.
> I know already that the group of friends, and there
> are several of us, who have noticed your little trick
> are very upset with the goings on. I know that I was
> not happy.
>
> I am a fanfiction author myself, you see. I think that
> I would be very upset if anyone chose to plagerize my
> own works. Some of the stories I have written have
> taken numerous revisions, precious hours of time, and
> a lot of background work. I wrote an epic that took
> over a year to complete and was about 1000 pages in
> length, if not more. To see someone else's name on
> something I was interminably proud of would be the
> ultimate blow to my pride in my work, I think. Not
> because someone else liked it enough to copy it, but
> because someone else is getting credit for my work,
> something that I, and only I, have created.
>
> Maybe "10 Steps to Sucessful Flaming" is not an
> 1000-page epic that was labored for years on. I know
> for a fact it isn't, because I was on my eGroup the
> day that the real author posted it for the first time.
> It isn't a masterpiece of nature so much as a little
> something he wrote because he was upset. His story had
> been flamed by someone with no sense of respect and
> dignity, and he had been rather hurt by all the nasty
> -- and completely unrelated -- comments the idiotic
> flamer had felt necessary to fling. All the muck that
> was fit to throw at a poor, unsuspecting author and
> then some more, if you catch my meaning.
>
> So even something as simple as a small comment on the
> idiocy of flamers has a story behind it, a value. I
> feel bad for him, because now he has lost at least
> some of his pride in his work, because you're going to
> get credit for it. And that is not fair.
>
> I guess my point here is that you should retract
> "your" story and take a good long look at yourself.
> When you really consider plagerism as part of it, I
> think you just might see something you don't want to
> see.
>
> Sincerly yours, and on the behalf of Michael,
> Sailor Gorgeous (K.D.B.)
> sailor_gorgeous@yahoo.com
>
> __________________________________________________
> Do You Yahoo!?
> Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35
> a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
My answer:
Dear whoever you are,
I don't know who you are and how you can accuse me of plagiarizm. I do,
however, know that I have written every single word on my own. I have
composed it while sitting in my translation class, shortly after I created
my mailing list FFN-Slashers-Unite where I posted the first draft and
improved it with the suggestions of my fellow listsibs. It was later posted
on ff.net. I don't know you friend and I don't know when he's supposed to
have written this, but whatever he did, he either wrote the same thing as
me, coincidentally, or he copied it from me. I am free from guilt and don't
really see any need explaining it to you.
You talk about plagiarizm and yet you try to take my own achievements away
from me. This is really funny. Is this some new kind of flame? If so, I'll
make sure to include it in my updated version.
Although, I am really curious. When did your friend allegedly write this
piece? I'm really curious. Maybe he has some magical link to me, then PLEASE
tell him to write me. Otherwise I'm sure I can prove that this list has been
published on my ML already earlier. If not, then this was a huge coincidence
and I am just as amazed as you. I could even scan the page from my notepad
for you where I drafted the 10 Steps.
Whatever it is, I have no idea. Please refrain from accusing me any further,
because I really don't see any reason for this. Your friends may be upset,
but maybe your friend copied it from me. *shrugs*
Oh, and it's cool you know Oscar Wilde, how witty, no?
So long
Silver
Her answer:
----- Original Message -----
From: Sailor Gorgeous <sailor_gorgeous@yahoo.com>
To: Silver <silver@glasscases.net>
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 2:32 PM
Subject: Re: 10 Steps to Sucessful Flaming
> Silver,
>
> I find your responce...interesting. Most of the people
> I have met that are plagerists are not as... Well, to
> be honest, they are not as blatantly defensive of
> their works. It makes me consider your story more than
> I have other times, when the responces I get are as
> eloquent as: "Did NOT!"
>
> It made me think.
>
> I would like to say that my friend wrote his version,
> which I will include as a post-script to this message,
> about a year ago. I am not completely sure of the
> date, being as I have known him for nearly two years
> and have been in contact with him almost each day
> since we met, but I would like to think about a year
> ago is right. I would like to say that, yes, it is
> possible that he could have copied your work, but,
> honestly, I find him to be an upstanding, moral
> induvidual who would not do something like that. But,
> except for a few minor differences, your works are
> almost word-for-word alike. I find it very odd.
>
> Part of the reason I approached you was that this
> piece, uniquely enough, was posted in only one place
> (that I am sure of, at least): a Gundam Wing ML. It
> was not posted under his name but the name of another
> friend who had borrowed it and gave him complete
> credit. This, I believe, was quite a few months ago.
>
> This ML, and I know because I was, at one point, a
> card-carrying member (so to speak, at least), is
> legendary for having plagerists or, as others call
> them, copy-cats. Copy-cats use half or three-fourths
> of a story or other post but then change the ending to
> suit their needs. They consider themselves nothing
> more than people who take a good idea and run with it.
>
> I honestly do not know how this all occured. As I said
> before, you intrique me because your responce was not,
> "You jerk! Did not!" and offer no way to prove
> themselves. I'm not asking you to prove yourself in
> the least, however, because I think, perhaps, my
> friends and I should talk to Michael about this.
> Michael is away at the Air Force and is lucky to use a
> computer once a week, so in this case I (and only I,
> and MAN did I get yelled at for it) jumped the gun and
> decided to take matters into my own hands. The only
> reason I did it, though, so that you don't think me an
> arbitrarily spiteful induvidual, is that I know how I
> would feel if someone took my work and put their name
> on it. It has not happened yet, but I dread the day
> that that happens to me.
>
> I feel slightly guilty for my scathing letter earlier,
> because I was probably a little on the cruel side.
> Yesterday was not a good day, and tomorrow is not
> looking good either, but I did not mean to come across
> as a mean, spiteful, argumentitive person. You're
> obviously more intelligent than half the people I have
> met (plagerists included or aside, it doesn't matter),
> and so I must say that I was a bit too...spiteful. As
> I said before, though, this is a subject that I feel
> very passionate about. And passion rules reason.
>
> Included in the post-script is Michael's work as it
> appeared on the Gundam Wing ML that I was speaking
> earlier about. I'm going to go, once again, compare it
> to yours and look for further differences.
>
> Whatever is going on, I think, is not a cut-and-dry
> case.
>
> Sincerly,
> K.D.B.
> Sailor_gorgeous@yahoo.com
>
> Note: I did not mean to be a new type of flame. I'd
> rather not be included in any update, thanks. Even
> though I do believe you were probably kidding as it
> is.
>
> 10 Steps to Successful Flaming
>
> 1. Don't read the story you're reviewing! This only
> costs precious time and might narrow your justified
> indignation and fervor.
>
> 2. Don't bother with spellign. Cuz when ur realy angry
> ppl cant expect u 2 take the tiem & think thru!
> They'll surely get the point anyway. Besides,
> everybody knows how difficult it is to type with only
> one hand.
>
> 3. Use exclamation marks generously! Only then
> slashers will truly feel the full extent of your wrath
> and become a muttering pile of
> shame!!!!!!!![snip]!!!!!!!![major snippage]!!!!!!
>
> 4. Don't worry when your finger gets tired. Everybody
> knows that the "!" is right above the "1" and nobody
> can expect you to press Shift all the time!!!!!!111
>
> 5. Use Caps Lock permanently! THIS IS THE ONLY WAY TO
> GAIN THE ATTENTION AND RESPECT YOU DESERVE!
>
> 6. Bring your flame down to the point. "U SUX" is
> absolutely sufficient to show your expertise and
> authority. Any Flamee will drop to their knees and
> pledge atonement in no time.
>
> 7. Don't bother to leave an e-mail address. Of course
> you and everybody else knows that you did the right
> thing and usually you have the guts to stand up for
> your beliefs, but who knows? This gay virus might
> creep through the phone wire and infect your files
> once you've drawn the attention to yourself!
>
> 8. Leaving a fake e-mail addy is always a bonus,
> though. Nobody would penetrate the ingenious feint of
> Fuck-you@I'm-not-telling-you.com and you can cackle
> joyfully at the prospect of another dirty Flamee
> composing a repentant reply in tears, only to find it
> returned to their inbox unread.
>
> 9. Always question the author's intelligence, talent,
> sexual orientation or right to live in addition to
> your flame, to give the point you're making more
> insistence.
>
> 10. Last, but not least, post your own fics right
> after a successful day of slash-roasting. After all,
> your stuff is perfectly straight, which already is
> justification enough to make it a damn good piece. So,
> no need to bother about spelling, grammar,
> punctuation, characterization and plot. Leave that to
> those dodos who can't even think straight, let alone
> write it.
>
> All clear now?? THEN FLAME AWAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11111
>
>
> __________________________________________________
> Do You Yahoo!?
> Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35
> a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
>
and my answer
Okay,
whatever it is that's going on here, I can't make heads and tails of it. I
can say for myself that I have with the best knowledge and integrity of my
reputation as a writer written every single word of my 10 Steps personally,
without ever having read anything closely resembling this. I was not in the GW
fandom at that time and I am not now. I like GW, but I've never been
subscribed to any ML.
I have NEVER read a 10 Steps before. I formulated every single line myself.
I changed it several times. I had 14 first, decided that 10 was better and
merged several points to one. I had a whole string of exclamation points
first, then someone on my ML (Crazy Ivan) suggested to snip them, so I added
the [major snippage]. I spontaneously added the "Flame away" before posting
it on ff.net. Every single word is my own achievement, including the
spelling mistakes and all that. So, I'm sure you can understand that I do
not believe this is a coincidence. Period.
I don't know what you're up to or if this is a huge misunderstanding. I, for
one, can prove step by step how I wrote this, with whom I wrote this, where
I posted it the first time and so on. My mind is free from guilt. Maybe your
friend is fooling you. I honestly don't know what it is.
To repeat: I DID NOT plagiarize anyone. I DID NOT paste my name under
somebody else's achievement. I would NEVER do that. I'm an intelligent,
creative person, I earn my money being one, I really don't need somebody
else's ideas. If you try me I can be jut as saracastic at any other given
moment. So even if I deleted the 10 Steps right now (which I won't), I could
be writing equally as funny at the blink of an eye. I realize this sounds
terribly arrogant, but this is how I'm going to make clear that I'm not
going to accept any accusation like that. I'm free from guilt. Period.
I cannot believe that I should have managed to have written something that
equals a previously published work bit by bit. How likely is that? So,
whatever it is, I don't know the answer. Maybe you like to make fun of me
and want to cause me a headache. You managed that, so you can stop now. Next
time, flame me, because then I can laugh about it and retaliate in a way I
am used to.
Silver
And I added:
Okay, enough of this business.
Please subscribe to my ML FFN-Slashers-Unite and look at this message
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FFN-Slashers-Unite/message/46
It was posted November 21st 2000, the first version of my 10 Steps. Looks
like this is the 6 or 7 months you were talking about. Funny, no? Looks like
your friend plagiarized me. Unless you can give me similiar proof (and I
don't mean some forwarded message, even I could change the date of that), I
will ignore this whole business and just regret that your friend is a
plagiarizer who's causing ME a migraine.
Thank you.
Silver
----- Original Message -----
From: Sailor Gorgeous
To: Silver_Solitaire@bigfoot.com
Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2001 2:44 PM
Subject: 10 Steps to Sucessful Flaming
> Dear "Silver,"
>
> Oh, how greatful I was for those tips you so kindly
> posted on fanfiction.net. No, it is not that I find
> any worth in them -- I know they are a joke and I knew
> that, oh, six or seven months ago. It is because it
> made me see the human stupidity that resounds in the
> world.
>
> I am sorry, and pardon any coming cruelty, but the
> idea that you would plagerize, word for word in many
> cases, another author's work just astonishes me to no
> end. If you would like me to find you the original
> copy of those tips, which were written by a dear
> friend and reside on my computer, I will be happy to
> do so.
>
> I suppose that imitation is the sincerest form of
> flattery, but I believe that taking another person's
> work and claiming it as your own is actually the most
> unkind thing to do. It deminishes your own sense of
> self-worth -- after all, it is obvious that you were,
> at least to yourself, not creative enough to come up
> with such a scathing commentary on flames on your own
> and had to steal another's writings -- and it takes
> away your chance, at least in some other people's
> eyes, to make yourself a well-known, respected author.
> I know already that the group of friends, and there
> are several of us, who have noticed your little trick
> are very upset with the goings on. I know that I was
> not happy.
>
> I am a fanfiction author myself, you see. I think that
> I would be very upset if anyone chose to plagerize my
> own works. Some of the stories I have written have
> taken numerous revisions, precious hours of time, and
> a lot of background work. I wrote an epic that took
> over a year to complete and was about 1000 pages in
> length, if not more. To see someone else's name on
> something I was interminably proud of would be the
> ultimate blow to my pride in my work, I think. Not
> because someone else liked it enough to copy it, but
> because someone else is getting credit for my work,
> something that I, and only I, have created.
>
> Maybe "10 Steps to Sucessful Flaming" is not an
> 1000-page epic that was labored for years on. I know
> for a fact it isn't, because I was on my eGroup the
> day that the real author posted it for the first time.
> It isn't a masterpiece of nature so much as a little
> something he wrote because he was upset. His story had
> been flamed by someone with no sense of respect and
> dignity, and he had been rather hurt by all the nasty
> -- and completely unrelated -- comments the idiotic
> flamer had felt necessary to fling. All the muck that
> was fit to throw at a poor, unsuspecting author and
> then some more, if you catch my meaning.
>
> So even something as simple as a small comment on the
> idiocy of flamers has a story behind it, a value. I
> feel bad for him, because now he has lost at least
> some of his pride in his work, because you're going to
> get credit for it. And that is not fair.
>
> I guess my point here is that you should retract
> "your" story and take a good long look at yourself.
> When you really consider plagerism as part of it, I
> think you just might see something you don't want to
> see.
>
> Sincerly yours, and on the behalf of Michael,
> Sailor Gorgeous (K.D.B.)
> sailor_gorgeous@yahoo.com
>
> __________________________________________________
> Do You Yahoo!?
> Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35
> a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
My answer:
Dear whoever you are,
I don't know who you are and how you can accuse me of plagiarizm. I do,
however, know that I have written every single word on my own. I have
composed it while sitting in my translation class, shortly after I created
my mailing list FFN-Slashers-Unite where I posted the first draft and
improved it with the suggestions of my fellow listsibs. It was later posted
on ff.net. I don't know you friend and I don't know when he's supposed to
have written this, but whatever he did, he either wrote the same thing as
me, coincidentally, or he copied it from me. I am free from guilt and don't
really see any need explaining it to you.
You talk about plagiarizm and yet you try to take my own achievements away
from me. This is really funny. Is this some new kind of flame? If so, I'll
make sure to include it in my updated version.
Although, I am really curious. When did your friend allegedly write this
piece? I'm really curious. Maybe he has some magical link to me, then PLEASE
tell him to write me. Otherwise I'm sure I can prove that this list has been
published on my ML already earlier. If not, then this was a huge coincidence
and I am just as amazed as you. I could even scan the page from my notepad
for you where I drafted the 10 Steps.
Whatever it is, I have no idea. Please refrain from accusing me any further,
because I really don't see any reason for this. Your friends may be upset,
but maybe your friend copied it from me. *shrugs*
Oh, and it's cool you know Oscar Wilde, how witty, no?
So long
Silver
Her answer:
----- Original Message -----
From: Sailor Gorgeous <sailor_gorgeous@yahoo.com>
To: Silver <silver@glasscases.net>
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 2:32 PM
Subject: Re: 10 Steps to Sucessful Flaming
> Silver,
>
> I find your responce...interesting. Most of the people
> I have met that are plagerists are not as... Well, to
> be honest, they are not as blatantly defensive of
> their works. It makes me consider your story more than
> I have other times, when the responces I get are as
> eloquent as: "Did NOT!"
>
> It made me think.
>
> I would like to say that my friend wrote his version,
> which I will include as a post-script to this message,
> about a year ago. I am not completely sure of the
> date, being as I have known him for nearly two years
> and have been in contact with him almost each day
> since we met, but I would like to think about a year
> ago is right. I would like to say that, yes, it is
> possible that he could have copied your work, but,
> honestly, I find him to be an upstanding, moral
> induvidual who would not do something like that. But,
> except for a few minor differences, your works are
> almost word-for-word alike. I find it very odd.
>
> Part of the reason I approached you was that this
> piece, uniquely enough, was posted in only one place
> (that I am sure of, at least): a Gundam Wing ML. It
> was not posted under his name but the name of another
> friend who had borrowed it and gave him complete
> credit. This, I believe, was quite a few months ago.
>
> This ML, and I know because I was, at one point, a
> card-carrying member (so to speak, at least), is
> legendary for having plagerists or, as others call
> them, copy-cats. Copy-cats use half or three-fourths
> of a story or other post but then change the ending to
> suit their needs. They consider themselves nothing
> more than people who take a good idea and run with it.
>
> I honestly do not know how this all occured. As I said
> before, you intrique me because your responce was not,
> "You jerk! Did not!" and offer no way to prove
> themselves. I'm not asking you to prove yourself in
> the least, however, because I think, perhaps, my
> friends and I should talk to Michael about this.
> Michael is away at the Air Force and is lucky to use a
> computer once a week, so in this case I (and only I,
> and MAN did I get yelled at for it) jumped the gun and
> decided to take matters into my own hands. The only
> reason I did it, though, so that you don't think me an
> arbitrarily spiteful induvidual, is that I know how I
> would feel if someone took my work and put their name
> on it. It has not happened yet, but I dread the day
> that that happens to me.
>
> I feel slightly guilty for my scathing letter earlier,
> because I was probably a little on the cruel side.
> Yesterday was not a good day, and tomorrow is not
> looking good either, but I did not mean to come across
> as a mean, spiteful, argumentitive person. You're
> obviously more intelligent than half the people I have
> met (plagerists included or aside, it doesn't matter),
> and so I must say that I was a bit too...spiteful. As
> I said before, though, this is a subject that I feel
> very passionate about. And passion rules reason.
>
> Included in the post-script is Michael's work as it
> appeared on the Gundam Wing ML that I was speaking
> earlier about. I'm going to go, once again, compare it
> to yours and look for further differences.
>
> Whatever is going on, I think, is not a cut-and-dry
> case.
>
> Sincerly,
> K.D.B.
> Sailor_gorgeous@yahoo.com
>
> Note: I did not mean to be a new type of flame. I'd
> rather not be included in any update, thanks. Even
> though I do believe you were probably kidding as it
> is.
>
> 10 Steps to Successful Flaming
>
> 1. Don't read the story you're reviewing! This only
> costs precious time and might narrow your justified
> indignation and fervor.
>
> 2. Don't bother with spellign. Cuz when ur realy angry
> ppl cant expect u 2 take the tiem & think thru!
> They'll surely get the point anyway. Besides,
> everybody knows how difficult it is to type with only
> one hand.
>
> 3. Use exclamation marks generously! Only then
> slashers will truly feel the full extent of your wrath
> and become a muttering pile of
> shame!!!!!!!![snip]!!!!!!!![major snippage]!!!!!!
>
> 4. Don't worry when your finger gets tired. Everybody
> knows that the "!" is right above the "1" and nobody
> can expect you to press Shift all the time!!!!!!111
>
> 5. Use Caps Lock permanently! THIS IS THE ONLY WAY TO
> GAIN THE ATTENTION AND RESPECT YOU DESERVE!
>
> 6. Bring your flame down to the point. "U SUX" is
> absolutely sufficient to show your expertise and
> authority. Any Flamee will drop to their knees and
> pledge atonement in no time.
>
> 7. Don't bother to leave an e-mail address. Of course
> you and everybody else knows that you did the right
> thing and usually you have the guts to stand up for
> your beliefs, but who knows? This gay virus might
> creep through the phone wire and infect your files
> once you've drawn the attention to yourself!
>
> 8. Leaving a fake e-mail addy is always a bonus,
> though. Nobody would penetrate the ingenious feint of
> Fuck-you@I'm-not-telling-you.com and you can cackle
> joyfully at the prospect of another dirty Flamee
> composing a repentant reply in tears, only to find it
> returned to their inbox unread.
>
> 9. Always question the author's intelligence, talent,
> sexual orientation or right to live in addition to
> your flame, to give the point you're making more
> insistence.
>
> 10. Last, but not least, post your own fics right
> after a successful day of slash-roasting. After all,
> your stuff is perfectly straight, which already is
> justification enough to make it a damn good piece. So,
> no need to bother about spelling, grammar,
> punctuation, characterization and plot. Leave that to
> those dodos who can't even think straight, let alone
> write it.
>
> All clear now?? THEN FLAME AWAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11111
>
>
> __________________________________________________
> Do You Yahoo!?
> Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35
> a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
>
and my answer
Okay,
whatever it is that's going on here, I can't make heads and tails of it. I
can say for myself that I have with the best knowledge and integrity of my
reputation as a writer written every single word of my 10 Steps personally,
without ever having read anything closely resembling this. I was not in the GW
fandom at that time and I am not now. I like GW, but I've never been
subscribed to any ML.
I have NEVER read a 10 Steps before. I formulated every single line myself.
I changed it several times. I had 14 first, decided that 10 was better and
merged several points to one. I had a whole string of exclamation points
first, then someone on my ML (Crazy Ivan) suggested to snip them, so I added
the [major snippage]. I spontaneously added the "Flame away" before posting
it on ff.net. Every single word is my own achievement, including the
spelling mistakes and all that. So, I'm sure you can understand that I do
not believe this is a coincidence. Period.
I don't know what you're up to or if this is a huge misunderstanding. I, for
one, can prove step by step how I wrote this, with whom I wrote this, where
I posted it the first time and so on. My mind is free from guilt. Maybe your
friend is fooling you. I honestly don't know what it is.
To repeat: I DID NOT plagiarize anyone. I DID NOT paste my name under
somebody else's achievement. I would NEVER do that. I'm an intelligent,
creative person, I earn my money being one, I really don't need somebody
else's ideas. If you try me I can be jut as saracastic at any other given
moment. So even if I deleted the 10 Steps right now (which I won't), I could
be writing equally as funny at the blink of an eye. I realize this sounds
terribly arrogant, but this is how I'm going to make clear that I'm not
going to accept any accusation like that. I'm free from guilt. Period.
I cannot believe that I should have managed to have written something that
equals a previously published work bit by bit. How likely is that? So,
whatever it is, I don't know the answer. Maybe you like to make fun of me
and want to cause me a headache. You managed that, so you can stop now. Next
time, flame me, because then I can laugh about it and retaliate in a way I
am used to.
Silver
And I added:
Okay, enough of this business.
Please subscribe to my ML FFN-Slashers-Unite and look at this message
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FFN-Slashers-Unite/message/46
It was posted November 21st 2000, the first version of my 10 Steps. Looks
like this is the 6 or 7 months you were talking about. Funny, no? Looks like
your friend plagiarized me. Unless you can give me similiar proof (and I
don't mean some forwarded message, even I could change the date of that), I
will ignore this whole business and just regret that your friend is a
plagiarizer who's causing ME a migraine.
Thank you.
Silver
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Date: 2001-06-11 06:49 am (UTC)I smell something rotten in the case of Danmark.
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Date: 2001-06-11 04:25 pm (UTC)What a rotten lying cheating..... grr!
Date: 2001-06-11 07:26 am (UTC)What a complete waste of time this evil evil person is!
::virtual ibuprofen::
*seethe*
Date: 2001-06-11 09:26 am (UTC)To: sailor_gorgeous@yahoo.com
From: Amy Fortuna
Silver posted on her livejournal how you were accusing her of plagarizing the "10 Steps to Successful Flaming." I'm her friend, and I am absolutely certain this must be a misunderstanding of some kind because plagarizing is one thing I could never see Silver doing. She is an excellent writer -- she doesn't need to plagarize to gain a reputation. If you accuse her of taking the "10 Steps," you're going to need some concrete proof (the archives of the mailing list in question, or something like that.) I was *there* when Silver posted the "10 Steps" on FFN-slashers-unite and again when she posted it to fanfiction.net. I would advise you to think very carefully about your accusation and come up with an absolute way to prove that your friend wrote the 10 Steps before Silver. Otherwise your accusation is groundless and only intended to hurt my friend. And amazingly enough, I am just as loyal to *my* friends as you are to yours. Give it some thought, look into *yourself* and *you* just might see something you don't want to see.
Oooooooh...
Date: 2001-06-11 04:37 pm (UTC)(I tried to post my answer several times, but LJ screwed up on me. Hope you didn't get spammed! LOL)
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Date: 2001-06-11 10:07 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2001-06-11 10:28 am (UTC)This is rather like detective work, no? ^_^ I wouldn't stress about it. I'm sure it'll all work out. Perhaps, like I said earlier, it's just a misunderstanding. Maybe he actually said, "I found this 10-Steps on another ML and wanted to share it..." and his friend just missed that part. *shrugs*
I hope so, at least.
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Date: 2001-06-11 12:14 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2001-06-12 07:45 am (UTC)http://www.stor.co.uk/troopers.php