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silversolitaireDid Gay Love Scenes Delay 'Alexander'?
Warner Bros. pushed back the opening date of Oliver Stone's Alexander from Nov. 5 to Nov. 24 because it wanted Stone to cut some of the love scenes between Alexander, played by Colin Farrell and his male lover Bagoas, played by Francisco Bosch, according to MSNBC.com's "Scoop" column. It quoted an unnamed insider as saying, "Some of the suits at Warner Bros. think that the movie-going public just isn't ready to see that. ... There's some pretty heated arguments going on over it." Alexander is depicted as a bisexual in the film, which also includes heterosexual love scenes involving the title character. A Warner Bros. spokeswoman declined to discuss the report, saying "We wouldn't talk about anything involving the process of making a movie."
Noooooooooooooooooooo! Don't cut them out!!! Give us teh gei secks!!!!!!!!!111
Brooks To Make Sequel to 'Spaceballs'
A day after announcing plans to film the movie version of his Broadway musical The Producers in New York, Mel Brooks is being quoted as saying that he is currently working on the script for a sequel to his 1987 Star Wars spoof Spaceballs that he would like to rush into production. Asked by Playbill magazine when the film is likely to hit the screen, Brooks replied: "Best case scenario: a week before the new Star Wars opens. Worst Case Scenario: a year after the new Star Wars opens." The new Star Wars movie, Revenge of the Sith, is due to open on May 19, 2005. Brooks also indicated that he will appear in the sequel (although, he said, he won't have a role in The Producers). "It wouldn't feel right to have anyone else play Yoghurt, and the first one was the best experience I've had making a movie since Blazing Saddles," he said.
*squeeeeeeeeeeeeeee* That's gonna be interesting! Hehehe...
Janet Jackson Incident Most TiVo'd Event
If TiVo users were broadcasters, they would be looking at pretty heavy FCC fines, judging from a company news release Wednesday indicating that Janet Jackson's notorious "wardrobe malfunction" at last February's Super Bowl halftime show remains the most replayed incident in TiVo history. Second on the list is the Britney Spears-Madonna kiss during the 2003 MTV Video Music Awards. Also making the top of the list were scenes from the Athens Olympics, but a TiVo spokesman said that viewers were not interested in saving clips of victories so much as they were saving clips of flubs.
Interesting...
Warner Bros. pushed back the opening date of Oliver Stone's Alexander from Nov. 5 to Nov. 24 because it wanted Stone to cut some of the love scenes between Alexander, played by Colin Farrell and his male lover Bagoas, played by Francisco Bosch, according to MSNBC.com's "Scoop" column. It quoted an unnamed insider as saying, "Some of the suits at Warner Bros. think that the movie-going public just isn't ready to see that. ... There's some pretty heated arguments going on over it." Alexander is depicted as a bisexual in the film, which also includes heterosexual love scenes involving the title character. A Warner Bros. spokeswoman declined to discuss the report, saying "We wouldn't talk about anything involving the process of making a movie."
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Noooooooooooooooooooo! Don't cut them out!!! Give us teh gei secks!!!!!!!!!111
Brooks To Make Sequel to 'Spaceballs'
A day after announcing plans to film the movie version of his Broadway musical The Producers in New York, Mel Brooks is being quoted as saying that he is currently working on the script for a sequel to his 1987 Star Wars spoof Spaceballs that he would like to rush into production. Asked by Playbill magazine when the film is likely to hit the screen, Brooks replied: "Best case scenario: a week before the new Star Wars opens. Worst Case Scenario: a year after the new Star Wars opens." The new Star Wars movie, Revenge of the Sith, is due to open on May 19, 2005. Brooks also indicated that he will appear in the sequel (although, he said, he won't have a role in The Producers). "It wouldn't feel right to have anyone else play Yoghurt, and the first one was the best experience I've had making a movie since Blazing Saddles," he said.
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*squeeeeeeeeeeeeeee* That's gonna be interesting! Hehehe...
Janet Jackson Incident Most TiVo'd Event
If TiVo users were broadcasters, they would be looking at pretty heavy FCC fines, judging from a company news release Wednesday indicating that Janet Jackson's notorious "wardrobe malfunction" at last February's Super Bowl halftime show remains the most replayed incident in TiVo history. Second on the list is the Britney Spears-Madonna kiss during the 2003 MTV Video Music Awards. Also making the top of the list were scenes from the Athens Olympics, but a TiVo spokesman said that viewers were not interested in saving clips of victories so much as they were saving clips of flubs.
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Date: 2004-10-01 01:05 pm (UTC)that's SO american and so hypocritical! "isn't ready to see that". duhn!
well what?! do they want to make a historically acurate movie or not? and again we are caught in the dumbass labelling scheme.. "Alexander is depicted as a bisexual" 'depicted' my ass! and what the hell should he be "depicted" like when bisexuality was pretty much the "norm" of the era?!
i bet if they were making a movie about Sparta, it would show a bunch of womanizing mucho-men in a war frenzy when in fact they had only same-sex contact up to a certain age..
*rollseyes*
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Date: 2004-10-01 02:48 pm (UTC)Yeah, why cut the gay scenes out? The American public should evolve.
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Date: 2004-10-01 03:18 pm (UTC)but that is one version, yes.
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Date: 2004-10-01 03:23 pm (UTC)I have this MARVELLOUS quote from Greek Homosexuality by K.J. Dover but I just can't find it right now... x_x
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Date: 2004-10-01 03:25 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2004-10-01 03:30 pm (UTC)I'm mad at them trying to gloss over these bits, too, but I'm still not so sure about whether Alexander really was all that bisexual. Like we have established, it was pretty much common practice to sleep with other guys and the whole "bed follow" business also seems rather gay to us now, but that didn't mean anything then.
But yeah, hypocritical bigots, all of them! >_<;
Got it!
Date: 2004-10-01 03:51 pm (UTC)Ephoros, writing in the mid-fourth century, gives a remarkable account (F149) of ritualised homosexual rape in Crete. The erastes ('senior lover') gave notice of his intention, and the family and friends of the eromenos ('to have a desire for...') did not attempt to hide the boy away, for that would have been an admission that he was not worthy of the honour offered him by the erastes. If they believed that the erastes was unworthy, they prevented the rape by force; otherwise they put up a good-humoured and half-hearted resistance, which ended with the erastes carrying off the eromenos to a hide-out for two months. At the end of that period, the two of them returned to the city (the eronemos was known, during this relationship, as parastatheis, 'posted beside...' or 'brought over to the side of...') and the erastes gave the eromenos expensive presents, including clothing which would thereafter testify to the achievement of the eromenos in being chosen; he was kleinos, 'celebrated', thanks to his philétór, 'lover'.
(Dover, K.J.: Greek Homosexuality. Harvard University Press, Cambridge Massachusetts: 1978, 1989, p. 189)
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Date: 2004-10-01 04:08 pm (UTC)actually, i don't think of them as gay or bi or whatever. or a happy pink gay army in fluffy uniforms. lol
i wonder how a society where there'd be no repression or denigration of same-sex contact (thus without all the reactivism phenomena these incite) would look like.
first, i think there'd be very few individuals not having a same-gender experience.
>>>but I'm still not so sure about whether Alexander really was all that bisexual
what can we know for sure from 300 B.C. (or when was it)?
but i still wonder what criteria are there to fulfill to qualify as "bisexual".
for example, not so long ago i was watching this documentary about Alexander on Discovery. it quite clearly mentioned some man being a very close friend of Alexander to a point that they shared their bed.
now, in a society where same-sex contact is pretty ordinary, far less a taboo than nowadays.. you wouldn't notice anything being "out of order". thus the term "bisexual" with all its contemporary conotations is not applicable. but "bisexual" as a simple descriptive term (not of the person, but simply behaviour) could be.
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Date: 2004-10-01 04:48 pm (UTC)I'd like to be an eromenos. =P
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Date: 2004-10-01 04:49 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2004-10-01 05:05 pm (UTC)And yes I agree that without restrictions of morals and society most people would have same-sex experience, simply as it is natural at a certain state to explore since it's not yet as mystifying and frightening as the other sex would be.
As for "not knowing what went on" around certain times in the past, isn't that always the case? We have documentation and research of the history, witness reports, and in a way we have to rely on it to be true. We have to conclude a picture out of many pieces of a jigsaw puzzle.
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Date: 2004-10-01 05:06 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2004-10-01 05:09 pm (UTC)