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silversolitaire ([personal profile] silversolitaire) wrote2008-02-20 02:28 am
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Montgomery Clift

A movie with Montgomery Clift (Lonelyhearts, 1958) is on TV. All those post-accident movies just kill me. I just can't get over how a person's face can change like that. I know I'm probably looking at faces differently than most people, but to me the post-accident Clift is a completely different person. I can't recognize him anymore, at all. Sure, it's the way he walks and talks, but even that has changed. He's lost his boyish charm, the carefreeness. I can't reconcile the images and I certainly can't get over how someone so pretty, so youthful, so smooth could just lose his face like that.

It's the stuff that cheap soap opera story arcs are made of, you know? A character is written out of the show by horrible accident. Seven months later the character returns with a completely different actor and they come up with some lame story about an accident and reconstructive facial surgery and you just want to roll your eyes at it at how dumb it all is. But then I look at Montgomery Clift and it's all true. I just want to rub my eyes and go "No way!".

Please tell me I'm not the only one who thinks so!


Montgomery Clift pre-accident and post-accident

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[identity profile] silversolitaire.livejournal.com 2008-02-20 10:14 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, nothing against his talent of course. I've always thought him one of the most amazing actors of his time and beyond and the fact that he committed "Hollywood's slowest suicide" still pains me. And I'm not saying he was ugly after the accident! Still a handsome man, albeit ruggish and a little weathered, definitely. I just can't reconcile his two faces with each other, you know? It's like, dunno, showing me Brad Pitt on the one side and Tom Cruise on the other and telling me they're the same person. To me they look so completely different and it just shakes me to the core. Know what I mean?

I have no idea, but I seem to have a really strange way of looking at faces, because this happens to me a lot. Like when someone has a nose job they lose all recognizable value to me and I'm completely shocked. I have no idea why. Maybe this is partly because I've got troubles with faces in general... but dude, this is so weird. I spaz out every time a Monty movie is on! LOL

[identity profile] no-ron.livejournal.com 2008-02-20 05:12 pm (UTC)(link)
i admit to never having seen a movie with M.C.
judging only by pictures is not easy, since i found some 4 or 5 pre-accident (i assume) pics on which he looks quite different to me in each of them.
i guess i'd have to see the last pre-surgery movie and the first post- one to be able to tell.
but considering how much a nose job can fuck with the whole face, after an even more extensive reconstruction i sure would expect a noticable difference.

it's interesting to consider how much under the influence of visuals we are, and as far as judging people goes - how major an impression facial features make. it's like a projection screen and everyone's psyche, just seeing the face, projects its own ideas and associations and feelings on the person.
it's completely subjective and to a great degree illusonary.
if i imagine that anyone could have his/her face practically wiped off by an ugly accient, leaving just a mess of burn scars or suchlike, while the person itself essentially doesn't change at all.. i wonder if blind people don't perceive the world more objectively..

[identity profile] silversolitaire.livejournal.com 2008-02-20 06:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes I know. Considering the "age difference" in the two pictures, it's a bit difficult to judge. He was actually just shooting Raintree County when he had the accident. I've never seen that movie, but apparently it's rather obvious there, the change.

I guess it just can't be helped to draw impulsive conclusions of people based on looks. It's the first thing we see. It just depends on how adamantly we stick to them. Humans probably are superficial in nature.

Maybe that's the reason why the internet has made it relatively easy for people to form relationships. Since you meet someone "as is". Of course you can put on any mask you want online, but I'm rather tempted to say that most people drop their masks rather. When they can hide among the anonymity of the internet they can allow themselves to be truly who they feel they are.